CAMRA’s podcast Pubs. Pints. People. continues its UK tour in the North Cotswolds to discuss everything railways and beer ahead of the nearby ale and steam festival taking place 27-29 May.

Episode 2 explores the unique relationship between ale and steam, brewing under the shadows of the archways in Bermondsey London and unique festival locations on steam engines and railway stations.

The podcast’s hosts sit down with ale and steam festival organiser Alan McLellan to learn more about a fest with a twist – it runs across Winchcombe and Toddington stations. This year the theme is ales from the North Midlands plus there will be a dozen or so from local brewers. Visitors can sample up to 50 ales and 12 ciders across the stations or on the train.

McLellan said: “We are well situated in the North Cotswolds to enjoy fantastic beer and pubs, and the festival really helps showcase some of the best to offer. Head down to the festival for the chance to travel to and from stations all while enjoying a pint en route."

The episode also shines a spotlight on other train-themed festivals in the CAMRA calendar, including the Kent & East Sussex Beer Festival in June which runs along the railway from Tenterden to Northiam and to Bodiam, and the Chappel Beer Festival at the East Anglian Railway Museum in early September.

Railway enthusiasts also get a chance to hear directly from beer author Des De Moor, who explores the origin of the famous Bermondsey Beer Mile in London, a mile long strip of brewers nestled under the railway arches.

Podcast producer Katie Wiles said: “Through our interviews in this episode it’s abundantly clear that there is a lot of synergy between rail and beer enthusiasts. Des De Moor refers to the nostalgia of steam, and how the real ale movement has been partly driven by nostalgia as well. I’d urge anyone who has an interest in beer or rail to give it a listen.”

The podcast episode Ale & Steam is now available to download from Apple Podcast, Spotify, Acast and wherever you get your podcasts.